@6LACKOfficial Explores the Power of Music, Love & Consciousness with Sadhguru
sounds of Sanity discovering inner peace a conversation between black and sunscreen always had the same purpose of figuring out how to heal through music and how to help people through music if you use the sound effectively it can transform life in a very powerful way even here and there if you touch those sounds those sounds will live forever in people's minds and hearts how does love contribute to our overall mental and emotional well-being to be loving is entirely your way of being and you should not deny yourself that no matter what [Music] [Music] now [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] so oh yeah [Laughter] love and self-love and mental well-being I've always been at the Forefront of what I create there hasn't been a stage in my life where I haven't been in some like sense of reflection or like wanting to figure out how to be better so with each album that I've made it never really mattered if it was a hundred people or a thousand people or a million people listening always have the same purpose of figuring out how to heal through music how to help people through music with that I've been able to travel and I've been able to see the effects that it has on other people and as much as I want to say responsibility I also don't want people to shy away from it so sometimes I like to say it's just a beautiful opportunity to be able to do something that impacts people and that gives you a vehicle and that gives you a moment to make an impression so with love and with self-love and with my mental and emotional state being like the most important thing I hope that it has always like had a relatable effect on the people that listen I hope that you've been able to take something away from it because it's not the popular thing it's not the most lucrative all the time but it's the most necessary and thank you [Applause] in your perspective how does love contribute to our overall mental and emotional well-being and how can one be in a constant mode of love and acceptance and forgiveness in spite of outside influences hmm if this body becomes Pleasant we call this health if it becomes very pleasant we call it pleasure if this man becomes Pleasant we call this peace if it becomes very pleasant we call it Joy if our emotions become pleasant we call this love if it becomes very pleasant we call it compassion if our very life Energies become pleasant we call this Bliss if it becomes very pleasant we call it ecstasy if our surroundings become Pleasant we call this success only to create pleasantness around us we need the cooperation of people and forces around us but to create pleasantness of body pleasantness of Mind emotion and energy is 100 our business um you want to create prisoners in this all you need everybody's cooperation to create pleasantness within this one is hundred percent my business isn't it so love is a certain sweetness of our emotion you may direct it at somebody if they are here if nobody is here you can simply sit here in a loving way it's not about somebody or something it's just that maybe there is a longing to share that's fine but it's the sweetness of our emotions if you're sitting here and somebody sitting in that corner loves you immensely doesn't change your life but if you're sitting here and feeling love even for something that's not here it changes your life isn't it because it's your emotion above all we need to understand all Human Experience absolutely our pleasantness our nastiness our love our hate our misery our joy our pain and pleasure Agony and ecstasy everything happens within us have you ever experienced anything outside of yourself out here hello you have really you did you experience something here anything that ever happened to you happen only here isn't it even this light and darkness is only happening within you stimulant maybe stimulation maybe from outside but the experience happens only within you or in other words the seat of your experiences within you when the seat of your experiences within you if you are sitting on that seat obviously you would make the experience the way you want it if I ask you a simple question will you answer if you say yes if you say no if you say silent I'll bless you for all the three it's up to you if there was a choice between being Pleasant within yourself and unpleasant within yourself what's your choice if there was a choice between sitting here in a loving manner or in an angry and hateful manner what's your choice then what there's no problem with anybody here the only problem is they are not consistent they're not sustainable hello sustainability is the issue otherwise there's no problem with any human being we have you know like for the last 27 years we have uh programs going on in the prisons of Southern India we did some here also in Kentucky and Pennsylvania prisons I'm at the most wonderful people but if you look at their life's actions they have done some horrible things absolutely horrible things but if you keep them happy and they are with you they are absolutely wonderful people so I'm saying all the horrible things are simply because somewhere inside you're feeling horrible you're feeling unpleasant that unpleasantness poor me acts in so many ways so one simple thing we need to understand is love is not what you do it is something that you can become you can become love but unfortunately everybody is trying to do love make love not become love if you have become love you can look at a man a woman a tree a dog an insect and be the same way or close your eyes and be loving because it's your business the way you keep yourself is entirely your business how you relate to the world around you see if you are sitting here in a loving manner if your child comes you grab him and put him on your lap if your neighbor comes you don't do that you just think do this all right but with the same amount of love you can do this hello so love is not about somebody or it is not a relationship a relationship is a different thing that needs management skills you need an MBA to manage a good thank you that's a different effect but to be loving is entirely your way of being and you should not deny yourself that no matter what it doesn't matter what the world is doing you should not the Miss out Miss out the experience of being soaked in your own sweetness every day every moment sweetness of the body sweetness of the mind and sweetness of emotion and energy must be on with you every moment of your life sometimes the world will allow you to find expression sometimes they won't allow you depends on the kind of situations we are existing in in some places there is more opportunity in some places there is less opportunity but nobody can stop you from being Pleasant within yourself nobody thank you so that kind of answers what my follow-up question was which was what advice would you give to someone who's having trouble with self-love what is self-love feeling Pleasant with yourself see when we use the word love let's say it this way let me put the same thing in another context you have heard the word yoga yoga means probably in United States most people think you have to twist turn and become like a leftover nodal no the word yoga means Union because once you have come here as a human being if you had come here as any other creature your stomach full settled once you have come as a human being stomach empty only one problem stomach full 100 problems because once you come as a human being you're longing to expand how much expansion would settle you for good if you look at this well if you're this much you want to become that much if you become that much you want to become that much what is your currency it may be different for different people if you know money you're thinking of more money if you know wealth you're thinking of more wealth if you're no pleasure you're thinking of more pleasure power more power knowledge more knowledge but everybody in their own way is longing to be something more than what they are right now now if you look at this how much more would settle you if I make you the king or queen of this planet would you be fulfilled and settled I'm asking you because then you will look at the Moon what about let's get the Moon what about our solar system if I give you one Galaxy you will look at the other Galaxy because there is something within you longing to expand in a limitless way when your longing is to become Limitless if you've tried to find physical expression to that inevitably you will be bitter and frustrated because he'll not get there he'll never get there unless you find another way when I say another way right now through physical means we are trying to expand in this longing to expand we are destroying the planet through and through so please understand all these environmental issues Planet being under threat and all this stuff is not because of some evil people in pursuit of human well-being hello you think some evil people are destroying the planet no all of us in pursuit of well-being isn't it because our well-being is never going to settle because we want all not more and that's not possible physically because the nature of physicality is such nature of physicality is always defined by defined boundaries you call this a physical body because it has a boundary if this had no boundaries you wouldn't call this physical anymore so yoga means to approach it in the right way that you approach the union understanding physical is not the way to go about it there are ways to do it leaving that aside but people are trying through physicality when it finds very fundamental basic physical expression when two are trying to become one we call the sexuality when it finds an emotional expression we call this love two or trying to become one if it finds an intellectual or mental expression it could be called Conquest ambition or simply shopping you know something that's not you you want to make it Part of Yourself it's the effort this effort is on from the simplest physical level to all levels of your faculties you're trying to become one with something else other than you but when you say self-love there is a danger to this because you are an individual an individual means you are not further divisible the moment there is more than one here because it's become I'm saying this please listen to this carefully because today it's become fashionable to have more than one here the moment there is more than one here you will go towards mental instability there's only one here this is just me this one is an individual not further divisible the moment you divide this people will say you know I am a nice guy but you know my ego this ego is a fall guy whenever you become nasty you don't want to admit I have been nasty that guy does those things and people start creating many levels of themselves there's no many levels they're just you if you see this is just you there is room for tremendous transformation the moment you make a crowd out of yourself there is no room for any kind of transformation all you can do is play ball throwing it here and there this happened that happened so love on one level is an effort to unite what is two into one don't make this two there's no need for self-love love is yours anyway you can become Love You Don't Have To Love Yourself because then you will become two this mind is capable of becoming million if you want human mind is such if you explore this you can make million people out of the same mind don't do that because then you will neither either need a psychiatrist or an exorcist [Laughter] thank you so I want to touch a little bit more on self-transformation um I like how you said that you can create a lot of different versions of yourself and your mind because I went through a phase of my life where I did start to break myself up into like portions or like this chapter this stage this version this phase and my very first album free black was if I had to put a word to it I would say it was like my conflict stage it was my introduction to learning myself to knowing myself to figuring out how I feel how I felt and how to express my emotions creatively through it it was a moment of not feeling like I deserved much and being so stuck inside my head that even down to the imagery of how we released the album everything was muted it was monochromatic my hair was covering my face my head was down and that was one stage in my life and then I graduated to the second album which was iselana love letter and we introduced color into everything that I started to do the first picture that I ever posted in color was a picture of my daughter and for anybody who was following the story it was a moment for all of us to kind of celebrate because up until that moment I didn't see any reason for a change in my personal life and that was my album of acknowledgment and reflection and then the most recent album since I have a lover is me in a state of practice everything that I experienced the first two times around had finally made it to the point where I could look in the mirror and say yes you talked a good game yes you have an idea of where you want to go how you want to be who you want to be but what are you doing every single day to prove it to yourself when you wake up what is the routine that you've implemented to show yourself that you deserve everything that you're wishing for um what is your practice these were my different versions of myself these were the different stages of how I had to grow from conflict to acknowledgment into practice so how has your personal Journey and experience influence your teachings and guidance for other seeking self-transformation and well-being what's your love life like say this is the nature of life first being because you're a certain kind of being you do certain things because you do certain things you may get to have certain things what you will get to have is not determined by you but in the times that we exist today in 21st century because of who you are maybe you're driving a certain kind of automobile if you were here 500 years ago maybe you would get a certain kind of Buffalo I'm saying what we get to have is not ours it's the times in which we are existing but unfortunately most people start their life with what they want to have for that what they should do and because of that they become something this is just trying to run the life in the reverse manner first being if you take any other life you take a bird it is a certain kind of being because of that it will do certain things because of that maybe it will get certain things maybe it gets protected many others have been killed and eliminated some have been protected because of the things that they do so instead of being doing and having most people today are trying to go from having they want to have this so they do this and they get here even if they get there then there is no joy to life because it's a struggle within oneself see there are challenges in the world the more you try to do the more challenges but if you yourself are a big challenge how to deal with life there are so many people and situations which will throw challenges at you as you try to do more and more in the world endless number of challenges but I should not be a challenge in my own life I should not be an impediment in my own life there are thousand impairments in the world well somebody will cross gracefully some we will struggle some we will not cross Maybe always there so you want me to talk about myself [Laughter] I must tell you a little average story about it you have a few minutes for this so this is one thing because you go to school almost everybody goes to school today in your school they reward only your memory not your attention if you remember the damn textbook they will say you are number one that stupid textbook if you remember chat GDP has more memory than you so that is first then this happened to me when I was just four and a half years of age one day I suddenly realized I don't know anything don't know anything means I don't know anything at all if somebody gives me a glass of water I don't know what this is I know how to use it but I don't know what it is even now you don't know what it is actually with all the scientific knowledge that we have we do not know a single atom in its entirety this is a fact not one atom do we know in its entirety we know how to fuse it we know how to break it we know how to make a bomb out of it but we don't know what it is so when I realized this if I finally I am just staring at it for hours if I sit up in my bed I am just staring at the darkness for the whole night my dear father being a physician he started thinking I need psychiatric evaluation this boy is simply staring at something it looked like he's lost it in this condition they sent me to school my mother said pay attention to the teacher don't look here and there I went and paid attention to the teacher the kind of attention they had never received in their lives and initially I kind of understood what they were trying to say but after some time I realized teacher after teacher every 45 minutes new teacher is coming all of them are just making sounds sounds and sounds I am making up the meanings in my mind then I said why am I making these meanings let them let me just listen so without making meanings I just started listening to all the sounds that they make after some time it really became very amusing a big smile spread on my face they were not amused at all what I'm trying to say is Right Now language itself see because language is a conspiracy if I say this sound you are making up the meaning isn't it suppose I start speaking a language that you don't understand just sounds isn't it India India is a nation where originally there were about 19 000 languages today in use are 1300 languages okay so every other person speaks a different language most of the time they're making sounds as far as you're concerned so when I just pay attention to these things slowly I know I know their past present and future but I don't hear a damn thing that they are saying then I became a super skeptic about everything because I paid attention to everything around me the home atmosphere the family the society the economic conditions around me social fabric politics I just paid attention attention attention and so I became if you pay attention to just about anything around in your life enough attention you will see too many meaningless nonsensical things are happening all over the place so I'm a super skeptic in this condition I I crisscrossed India on my motorcycle because I was restless and wanted to go somewhere and I traveled without going anywhere from one end of the nation to another and then turning around and riding to another corner and riding back like this seeing and enjoying the terrain and the feel of it but not going to any place as such why I'm saying this is after this I wanted to really right away then I decided I'll start my businesses I started a business it became very successful in short time I started one more one more about half it is in businesses for those days it was considered too successful so everybody clapping their hands and saying you're doing great but I was planning to leave foreign so one afternoon I went and sat in a small hill anybody been to India here oh you need to see India it's a unique Nation so a city called Mysore where there's a small hill where I know this hill very well I've camped there and I've known this place very well in the afternoon between two business meetings I just went and sat there and I am a super super skeptic I don't believe anything other than I can what see what I can see I was sitting there with my ash open till that moment this was me this is somebody else I have no issue with this somebody but this is me that is somebody suddenly I did not know which is me and which is not me I am sitting here and what was me was just all over the place I know it sounds insane even I thought so it was all over the place and I thought this lasted for 10-15 minutes but when I came back to my normal census it was four and a half hours that passed for the first time in my adult life tears me and tears were impossible my shirt was wet like that tears have been flowing every cell in my body bursting with ecstasy dripping ecstasy then I shake my head and think what is happening to me the only thing my logical mind could say was maybe I'm going off my rock then I ask my closest friends what do you think I'm just experiencing something like this hey come on what did you pop what did you drink did you find the mushrooms in the hill okay so I knew there was no context then I experimented for a few weeks with this then I found that if I can sit away from my own psychological process of thought and emotion if I can sit little away from it certainly within minutes I will be completely blissed out in a way that what seems like a minute in my experience is many hours so then I sat down and planned I'm telling you my problems okay then I sat down and planned that in the next two and a half years at that time the world's population was 5.6 billion people in two and a half years time I'm going to make this world Blissful every one of them because who wouldn't want it just sit here and be blessed out who wouldn't want it I thought everybody will go for it 40 years now [Laughter] well we've touched over two or 2.5 billion people now but that is not my idea of humanity so I know I will die of failure but as a blissful failure because my way of being is not connected to what I do or what I cannot do [Applause] I'm learning just as much as y'all learning today I'ma want to touch a little bit on spreading the message of bliss but in the midst of a lot of traffic and a lot of outside energy and a lot of pressures of the industry [Music] um I remember for me personally when I came into um really the Interscope offices when I was getting ready to to sign my first uh deal and I was trying to figure out like how do I set the tone how do I let it be known like why I'm here and how do I like clear space for me to be able to continue like what I feel like my purpose is and for me personally it came in the form of telling them like I was an album artist and that can mean a bunch of different things to different people but for me it meant I want to focus on like the story of what I'm doing I want to focus on the entire message of what I'm doing and I don't want to necessarily be here just to go to Radio I don't want to be here just to make money I don't want to be here just to pump out a bunch of products I want to focus on telling my story and that requires a certain amount of living and experiencing and learning um so I went through that process for those three albums and in the midst of figuring that out I just found myself in that state of confusion and I found myself in the state of being overwhelmed and I was trying to be and and do so much for so many other people that eventually I looked up and I was burnt out and I felt like I had overextended and I was holding like this this message in this flag and I was trying to Bear it so hard that I just completely forgot to to like you said sit with myself and find that Bliss and find that happiness what advice would you give for navigating through what we're all pretty much everybody in here is a creative in some kind of form but navigating through that with the Norms of the industry not necessarily being considerate of that same music in its essence is one instrument which can touch life profoundly it should be never seen as an industry there is an industry around music but music is not industry I know industry might have become overwhelmingly large compared to the art form of it but I don't think as musicians you should ever allow that to happen because industry is business it's Commerce it has to do its thing and commerce is needed to take it to the wide world a musician cannot do it by himself all that's fine but still for me instead of speaking for everybody let me speak what it means for me well your kind of music I may be a bit too old for that [Laughter] I was in 60s we started with heavy rock and roll and Rolling Stones and Geritol and you know all that and BB King and all that stuff I'm still listening to BB King because he spills magic out of his fingers so completely western music though I grew up in India one day in the University there is a and open our theater where about you know eight ten thousand people can sit I'm just riding on my motorcycle my motorcycle is loud enough so that it blurs out everything I like the music of the engine that's my constant companion but then I heard some strange kind of sound which got me by the gut literally it just literally drew me and I just wrote towards the open air theater and there was some small Security in them they tried to stop me I just rode straight through this open air theater me and my friends have been using which is a like an arena to ride the motorcycles up and down the steps okay I never thought about earning any event there in the last few years I have been doing events there so I just wrote to the edge of the arena and stood there and they were playing some kind of an instrument I did not even know the name of the instrument at that time very slow simply don't um like that it just I just sat there with tears flowing down I couldn't believe it what are they doing to me it's like they grabbed me from inside out this was the beginning of Indian classical music for me then all this body shaking music went out of me suddenly it just got me from inside uh as I became more and more meditative this classical music became more and more prominent for me and I started seeing what sound can do in most of my programs today I use music in such a powerful way that simply by uttering a sound you can make people burst out in so many different ways so we need to understand this even according to modern science today what seems to be solid material is not really that it is a reverberation of energy which makes it this way where there is a vibration there is bound to be a sound not all sound is audible to our ears only a small frequency of songs or audible to our human ears what is above that is ultrasonic what is below that is subsonic many animals elephants whales and others are communicating in subsonic sounds you don't hear that similarly there are some who are doing an ultrasonic sound like the bats and others which you cannot hear either we are only hearing a range of sounds but sound is the basis of existence there is a Whole Yoga called NADA yoga NADA means sound there is a Whole Yoga as to how to approach your ultimate nature through the use of sound there are scriptures talking about first there was a word see if I say a word now let us say I say some word for which you don't understand the meaning it's just a sound isn't it word is human mind interpreting it as a word otherwise it's just a sound sound is existentially true words are made up in human societies so if you use the sound effectively it can transform life in a very powerful way not just about creating emotions and this and that it can be both self transformation and transformation for everybody who comes in touch with it so for all this the most important thing is a very intense and Keen sense of attention and if you touch those sounds even if not in everything even here and there if you touch those sounds those sounds will live forever in people's minds and hearts there are there is music when I say baby king the guy is going boom all right because some sounds touched everybody doesn't matter what culture where you are what time you listen to it after 100 years still that sound touches you in some way because sound has this power and musicians should pay that attention and try to find that sound which will touch every human being who is sitting here not only human being right now some of the Indian musicians are experimenting with animals and they find animals are Keen listeners if you make certain sounds they're listening so intently I think so conscious music circle is co-presenting this event what work are you and your team doing Within the Music Industry and how can this community of people who haven't been to India who haven't who are just learning about you how can we get involved I am not a trained musician I know nothing about that but I haven't here too [Laughter] I have attention if I listen to something I know whether this is going to touch somebody or not clearly so in that sense well today there is so much music happening around the world so many varieties of music there are cultural aspects which you're trying to fulfill I understand that that has to be respected in different cultures different kind of things that are appealing to people talking about that these issues problems solutions all this aspect is there but music is beyond all the causes that we hold it may serve some costs but music must be seen as something which is about that because sound is the most fundamental thing in the universe everything else is made up by us on top of it so our cousins are there our purposes are there but music should stay above that I want to go back into the emotions and dealing with like how to express yourself when you're struggling with expressing your emotions I went through a good portion of my life feeling like I was coping and one coping mechanism was just feeling like everything that I needed to solve I would just figure it out on my own I wasn't really into using the community around me I wasn't really that into having outside conversations uh it was all just self-reliant and it kind of put me in a space to where I got to my adult life and it just started to show up in my relationships so the things that could have been easy conversations that could have been easy solutions started to become just hyped up and and over exaggerated because I would just be so in my head that it would go from okay there's something important on my mind but I'm having a good day today so I won't say it today and then two days ago by and I would be like okay I'll say it Wednesday but only if it's like the right time in the right place and then Wednesday would come and I will put it off until the next week and then by the next week it would like I never told her I love you things continue to blow up in my face until I was able to look in the mirror and and really just acknowledge that there was a lot of self-improvement left to be done and luckily I had a partner who was hyper aware enough to be able to say hey I see you and you might look like you have everything together to everybody else but to me you look like a mess right now so with like struggling with those emotions is there any way to cut all the fat off or get past the the being in your head part so let's understand what is emotion first of all living personal stuff let's fundamentally understand what is emotion because emotion has such power for human beings people start thinking it's a force by itself but please look at this carefully the way you think is the way you feel isn't it right now I sit here and I think he's a horrible guy now I have nasty emotions towards you now I think he's a wonderful guy I have sweet emotions towards you can I think I'm he's a wonderful guy and have nasty emotions towards you or can I think he's a horrible guy and have sweet emotions towards you the way you think is the way you feel but why they look so different is because thought is agile this moment I can think you're wonderful next moment I can think you're horrible just because you did something that I don't like but emotions are a bit sappy they don't turn around so quickly it takes three days to turn around or three years to turn around depends who you are all right but emotions are not agile like thought thought changes Direction emotion goes crashes into this and that so the way you think is the way you emote so what we need to do is how do we think most people don't think they just have mental diarrhea it's just running why is there a mental diarrhea like this why would there be a physical diarrhea something that should not go into the stomach has gone isn't it hello bad food what has happened to this the fundamental is this see this body you were not born like this you were born this much now you become this much how the food that you've eaten so this body what you call as myself right now is an accumulation or a period of time not everybody I'm saying whatever we have eaten has slowly gathered what is this mind all the Impressions that we have gathered slowly accumulated anything that we accumulate we can say this is mine this belongs to me but you cannot say it's me isn't it right now if I say this pot belongs to me this is my pot you will think satgurus got some problem but let's listen some more everybody's saying his wise after some time I say this is me then you'll say let's go it's clear hello the moment you claim something that is not you as myself it's very clear it's a case this you're doing every day food appears in your plate you say this is my food you eat it and then you say it's me this is where it starts the moment you identify yourself with something that you are not after that mental diarrhea cannot be stopped do what you want the harder you try the faster it runs because in this mind there is no subtraction and Division there is only addition and multiplication if you if this thought is going on I want to remove it there is no such thing if you remove it it will become 10.
but you can distance yourself from that is what I said in the beginning if once you create a little space between yourself and the psychological process you will see the chemistry of the body changes so dramatically today we have a research center in the Harvard Medical School which is studying all this you must see what they are putting out there are many things I will not go into the science of it one thing that would interest you is there are endocannabinides in the body that is body produces its own cannabis you know that oh you didn't give it an opportunity you're banking on the weed okay but within this body there are endocannabinoids that body produces its own cannabinoids and this is at its peak it's considered at its peak in an sexual orgasm but in a simple practice that we teach it has been measured and found it's much higher than that simply sitting here not doing anything simply sitting here you can chain the chemistry of the body simply because there's a little distance between yourself and the psychological process both physiological process and psychological process is something that you slowly gathered over a period of time is that so yes what you gather can be yours can never ever be you am I correct hello this can be yours but it can't be you just like that this can be yours but it can't be you for example for a thousand years there has been an argument whether this planet is round or flat hello what do you think now round or flat huh flat because if you walk up and down from your experience the Earth is flat we would have argued for the rest of the time but then we started navigating the oceans then we saw it seems to be round and we started from the same place and ended up in the same place so it must be round then we started flying we looked down it was quite round we when stood on the moon and looked down 100 percent it's a ball it's a little space little distance similarly if you create a little space between yourself and your psychological process it is crystal clear to you how it happens right now you're sitting inside that and trying to figure it out uh no it doesn't work like that people misunderstand confidence for clarity but confidence without Clarity is a disastrous process how to get confidence just make conclusions about everything that you're confused about hello make conclusions and will it work sick will confidence work you try this this is an I-75 tomorrow I will also be on it you can try it please don't do this I'm just joking you say whatever builds confidence in you one slogan some people have religious slogans other people have ideological slogans say one of those slogans and just run across I-75 you may make it just by sheer chance or because of compassion of some driver you may make it but if you try every day we know where to pick you up yes or no so confidence is like this because it is like see if you flip a coin and make all the decisions in your life fifty percent of the time you will be right but if you are right only 50 of the time there are only two professions left for you you can either become a weatherman or an astrologer everywhere else you will be fired thank you so I don't want the entirety of the conversation to be me picking his brain and me sharing my personal experiences so I do want to get ready to break for questions but before we do that Junior where you at oh man thank you so much for this talk it's been incredible um I would love to know what inspired you know one of the most interesting things I found that she's been doing recently is that you had a a trip across the country where you were essentially you know trying to spread the message about some of what you taught us today which is um the efforts of saving the soil right not across the country from London to Southern India 24 Nations 27 Nations incredible incredible and so I want to know what was the General uh feeling in the general consensus of some of the conversations you were having was it were people able to understand and to take seriously what you were telling them and how dire the situation actually is were there any moments of resistance or any memorable moments of the opposite of many moments of danger you would have killed yourself a hundred times over because I not only rode the motorcycle I did 691 events along the way in 100 days averaging nearly seven evens per day and riding sometimes nearly 24 hours many days over 18 hours and I'm 65 at that time last year has there been any negativity resistance no because I designed and constructed this whole movement it is not against anybody it is not against fertilizer industry it is not against chemical industry it is not against the farmer it's not against the government so once people saw it is not against Anybody Everybody became a part of it which is very important because if we want to fight we can choose against who it is if we want a solution we want all of them otherwise there's no solution I am not looking for a fight I am looking for a solution because I think this is a generational responsibility if this one thing we don't do I'm telling you if soil regeneration on the planet does not happen doesn't matter how much wealth and education and whatever nonsense they have the Next Generation I'm saying those who will be born in the next 10 years they cannot live well no matter what you do they cannot live well thank you thank you so much appreciate it I'm the guy who liked BB King my name is Michael rinder they call me Killer Mike I'm from right here I'm from about four miles that way I'd just like to know your thoughts on the importance of older Generations being the direct teachers of children because a lot of times in our ego and our teenage women and our young Adultism we simply don't have time for it but in my opinion if we get those that are 45 and up to spend more time with children that are from 0 to 13 14 I feel like will almost be escaping political Lobby because we'll be raising people that know how to do it already so much appreciation for you to telling us how to do it as adults but what advice do you give us as a dose to teach children the way so it simply becomes the way and not a way we have to lie and thank you I appreciate your considerations what's up black foreign s are such today let's say when I was growing up if 30 percent of the influence on us as children came from school and outside seventy percent of the influence was parents but today most parents don't even have 25 to 30 percent influence once the child is 10 11 years of age because it is not the school it is not the friends it is a whole world www three worlds influencing them and we don't know who they are and what they are saying what they intend for your children you have no clue about it and you have no control about it so the parental influence grandparental influence has become very small so in these times building a social Consciousness which influences a child from elsewhere is more important than we trying to influence them because if you try to influence them you will lose them this is the reality unfortunately I wish it was not that way but that's how it is right now so about making our own Gardens and things yes it is relevant see I do my own God and it's very cute but it's not a solution because agriculture is a huge machine on the planet 54 of the earth's land is formed right now out of which nearly 67 to 68 percent of it we grow food for animals repeat that if we see how we change our diets to whatever extent we change it and how we grow our food this can be brought down this is one thing we have been pushing our pushing out in India today 163 000 Farmers have taken to this full-on and we are working on another 5 million Farmers right now to make tree based agriculture that is within the regular forms trees can be of great help if you choose the right species and there is a whole science to it how to do it you can produce much more on the same land with trees growing far more nutritious food see if you ate one orange in 1920 what nourishment you got from it today if you have to get the same nourishment you will have to eat eight oranges today did you eat eight oranges any one day which never happened all right for anybody because the nutrient value has come down that much going on using chemicals and plowing the land and leaving it open to the Sun so we are working on this in various levels one thing is to bring robotic machines into forming where Mass application of anything doesn't happen see today if your doctor checks your blood and finds some calcium deficiencies there we gave you just one pill they found your B12 is not there we just gave one small pill for how long as long as we find it's deficient so we need to do the same thing with plants and crops that medicines or pesticides or whatever they are medicines for the plants must go in a doctor manner not mass application we have been spraying pesticides in airplanes literally killing everything we must understand this the nature of how the biology on this planet is the fundamental biology of a single celled animal like an amoeba and you they are not different it's the same thing if I can use a chemical and kill a single celled animal it also can kill you it's only a question of dosage the dosage that we are giving may not kill us but it is killing something it is killing us in installments not at once so using poisons in large scale is a crime that we have committed maybe we didn't have the knowledge at that time we did what we did it is not about blaming this person or that company or this company the thing is right now we need to make the correction this correction will not happen unless it happens on the policy level in the Government Federal policies and state policies and this policy implementation can only be done by the farmer scientists and academics and politicians cannot do it on the ground it's only the former and Farmers economy is so fragile if you do not know this maximum suicides in this country happens in the warming community yeah the you know the whole family is shooting themselves because nearly 50 percent of the American farmers I haven't earned a single Dollar in the last 12 years they're just going into deeper and deeper debt over 40 percent of the American farmers don't own the land they're renting the land so this is a dangerous situation now you're waiting for the wheat to come from Ukraine what happened to us when we have a whole continent here we need wheat from another place in Central Asia this has happened because we've been destroying this wantonly it is time to turn around it's still not late if we are committed to this within 10 to 15 years we can make a significant turnaround which we have proven on land for the last 30 years with hundreds and thousands of farmers but still it's a drop in the ocean because policies have to come in now Indian government is investing in this since we started this campaign they have invested one tranche of about 2.4 billion dollars another one of 1.3 billion dollars in the last two years which is not enough but it's a good beginning every nation has to do this some European nations are beginning to do United States has done very little ah but it is very important U.S sets an example if U.S it's a good example the world will take to it Caribbean Nations have are you know very deeply committed to this and they are going many African nations are looking at these Asian countries are looking at this but it's very important European union and United States must set a big example and make this an international mandate that if you own land see for example if you go to any old part of any City people have Built Homes next to each other okay sharing a wall that means there is no concept of a window one door to go in one door to come out all right but today if you want to build a house in Atlanta if you have 10 000 square feet you can't build 10 000 square feet you have to allow some space for yourself or your neighbor and all these things so there are laws in Urban Land but in rural land if you have 100 acres of land in the next 10 years you turn it into a desert there is no law to ask you why are you doing this we are asking for loss if you have an agricultural land minimum three percent organic content you must maintain because land is not your property it's a legacy soil is a legacy that's come to us from previous generations and it's our fundamental responsibility to hand it over that way to Future Generations we are not the last generation though many of the young people call themselves Generation Z we are not the last generation hello my name is jazz I want to say thank you to both of you for coming out tonight and speaking with us I want to know from both of you what are the practices the habitual practices that you do that help you be more mindful of your inner spirituality you came here for work and you started off with meditation and I really appreciated that so I'd like to know what are your practices do you meditate daily multiple times a day and then you black what are your practices that you do that don't include any vices because I feel like a lot of times nowadays a lot of us turn to Vices to kind of quote deal de-stress but what are your practices your daily practices that help you be more mindful that make you be more calm as you go on in life with the stresses of everyday life uh for me journaling um writing down what I'm grateful for even if it's something as simple as the air that I'm breathing the food that's on my table my daughter's laugh the conversation that I navigated in the right way like giving myself almost like tasks and assignments but since we're out of school there's nothing actually Force us to do anything so it's like if you want to just chill if you want to just relax if you want to have a lazy day it'll happen but for me writing it down therapy was a great outlet for me because before that I didn't really have a mentor I didn't really have an outside person to go to for advice so opening myself to having somebody tell me about myself was another thing that sharpened me a little bit um but yeah besides journaling besides therapy um besides making sure I take care of my body obviously yoga meditation um unplugging if I need to turn all the notifications well I haven't had notifications on my phone for the last six years so if you text me it don't pop up if you tweet me it don't pop up if you Instagram me it don't pop up I have to go in and actually make it an effort to see it and that just keeps like a certain all right you're telling him unplug brother but now that keeps like a certain amount of um just like space for for me to just enjoy my day and enjoy myself and be present um so those are a couple of things meditation writing it down stepping outside taking time off being off the internet spending time with the people that I love like those are the most common things and that's just been like the rotation for me lately though they sound normal but it's easy to slip out of it and to you know when you wake up in the morning first thing you do is get on Twitter get on Instagram see what the news is see what somebody said who's on shade room I've been trying my best to just like get all of that out of my life and at the very least save it for the middle or the end of the day when I built up a capacity to really handle it and if I start my day in the right way if I take care of my body if I have the right conversations then I feel more conditioned to handle anything else that happens what do you do I remember my life Wild no discipline I don't know where I will sleep where I will wake up if I sleep on the same pillow two nights it's a luxury I am always somewhere else so I don't have any discipline except that my day normally extends to 18 to 20 hours trying to slow down a bit but it's only picking up speed and momentum hey but because I made myself in such a way that nobody other than me determines what happens Within Me so nobody can frustrate me nobody can make me unhappy or angry so I have no issue if they wake me up at 2 am in the morning and ask me something I have no issue because the most important thing is first of all I made up my mind very early you know in my life I've never applied for a job ever nor did I go for an every job interview or even think of a job always my family worried how will you make a living I said I don't know all I know is if nothing works I'll go you know I spend weeks in the jungles of Southern India all by myself I learned to survive there I said if nothing works I'll go into the jungle you won't see me but I will live don't think I will die I know how to live so I don't see activity and people and challenges and impediments as anything that fundamentally disturbs me in any way it's just that some things will make your work better some things will impede things so in that context I am looking that's all I'm never looking at any activity or any person as somebody who can make my life or break my life because I have taken that and kept it in my hands absolutely or in other words I'm just conscious of every thought and emotion that happens within me so I can think wild and feel wild and let myself go where I want because it's only happening according to the way I want it I think this is something you must do as I said earlier if you create a little distance you will see you will understand the whole mechanics of how this works but if you're in it it looks like it's such a complex complicated affair it's it's not complicated it is just that individual people are complicating it within themselves and about being mindful no I am not mindful of anything I am generally mindless yes I don't have a single thought on my head I don't have any knowledge or knowing when I walk on the street I just walk like I'm a five-year-old boy just joyfully looking at everything you say a bird or a butterfly man woman everything I'm looking at carefully not with any intent simply looking because I have eyes I must say everything that I can see so if you have kindness of attention both internally and externally I don't think you have to struggle with who will disturb you what will disturb you what will throw you off no see balance in a balance is the most important thing you may have intelligence you may have genius you may have talent you may have many things you may even have a lot of wealth once there is no balance all these things will turn against you your own intelligence will turn against you your wealth will turn against you your relationships will turn against you everything will turn against you above all balance I'm well balanced you know I came riding to Atlanta I'll ride back on a motorcycle I'm going towards 70 but I am still writing and because balance both inner and externally you were balanced it's very very important if you're balanced whatever you have your intelligence your capabilities your talents will naturally find the best expression possible or in other words if you are well balanced everything that you can do in your life you will do what you cannot do any way you will not do but if you are not balanced what you can do you will not do in your life if you do not do what you cannot do there is no problem if you do not do what you can do you're a disaster it's my vision my blessing you should not become such a disaster is there a practice she was asking her name is jazz what can I do so there is a simple process that you can you know you can download this process 12-15 minutes a day you can do especially if you do it just before going to bed it's a simple way of creating little distance between you and your body between you and the psychological process it's called as Isha kriya initially you listen to it and do it it's guided for some time if you do it for let's say maybe 15 days or a month after that you can even do it without any guidance you can do it by yourself every day just reminding yourself and blinking your breath to it because breath is an important part of who you are in the sense nobody has forgotten we all came from our mother's wombs hello not forgotten long time ago so I'm asking we came from our mother's wombs when we were in our mother's womb there was a maintenance pipe connected and she it for us she breathed for us everything we got from that we came out of our personal mother's womb but even now we're in a womb see right now all these things unfortunately the modern science has made it mundane there's no experiential thing to it where in this atmospheric bubble for your body to be here this way there is a certain pressure it has to maintain certain amount of gaseous percentages it has to maintain if it becomes all nitrogen you will die if it becomes hydrogen you will die if it becomes carbon you know you will die everything is in proper balance right amount of pressure little more pressure your lungs will collapse high pressure something else will happen low pressure something else will happen it's just holding you like this is this not mother's womb from one home to another room you come yes or no even now constantly maintained but we don't feel it because we study science like it's some ABC there's no feeling towards life around us simply everything ecology is some kind of a subject no we are part of the ecology hello when did we become separate from the ecology so this is important that you feel it once you see something as a part of yourself nobody has to teach you any morality any values ethics nonsense what you see as a part of yourself you will anyway take care of it isn't it this is what yoga means not twisting and turning not Lululemon no no I'm not against any brand I'm just saying that's not what yoga is about when you do yoga we always say when you do classical yoga you must wear an organic cloth which is loose which doesn't touch your body but in America it's just the river skin tight nylon stuff you're wearing mm-hmm see we do everything wrong and we hope something right will happen that's not the way life works here unless you do the right things right things won't happen to you [Music] us